{"id":235,"date":"2012-06-28T18:51:18","date_gmt":"2012-06-28T18:51:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/olver.me\/?p=235"},"modified":"2026-02-28T12:57:00","modified_gmt":"2026-02-28T12:57:00","slug":"my-thoughts-on-radioplayer-online-first-slots","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/2012\/06\/my-thoughts-on-radioplayer-online-first-slots\/","title":{"rendered":"My Thoughts on Radioplayer &#8216;Online-first&#8217; Slots"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"330\" height=\"243\" data-attachment-id=\"236\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/radioplayer2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/radioplayer2.png\" data-orig-size=\"330,243\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Radioplayer Console\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/radioplayer2.png\" src=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/radioplayer2.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-236\" title=\"Radioplayer Console\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/radioplayer2.png 330w, https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/radioplayer2-300x221.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 330px) 100vw, 330px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><em>Update: Radioplayer has withdrew the slots. Read the update after the main post.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve worked on <a href=\"http:\/\/radioplayer.co.uk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Radioplayer<\/a> whilst at Cross Rhythms and even got recognised by the RP team for designing a player which is &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.radioplayer.co.uk\/community-spirit\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a great example of what a small community radio station can do using very little resource<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However I&#8217;m not too sure about the way that Radioplayer is &#8216;opening up&#8217; their platform to non-Ofcom&nbsp;Licence holding radio stations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Having met and spoken with Mike Hill, who is the Managing Director of Radioplayer in the UK, several times, I have voiced my opinion on letting Student Radio Association stations on to RP.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Understandably, RP only wants to have stations that have good quality broadcasts and also abide good journalism practices. That is why they initially said only Ofcom licence holders can stream on the platform.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I believe that if a student radio station is part of the SRA then they should have these qualities already. For example, at <a href=\"http:\/\/omgstaffs.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">One Media Radio at Staffordshire University<\/a>, many of the shows are part of students&#8217; courses so they must be clean and suitable for that, so when they go to air on One Media Radio they are already a reasonable quality.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I suggested to Mike that he speaks to the SRA and sees if there is some arrangement they can come to to get student stations on at a reasonable price. (I&#8217;m ignoring all the student radio stations that already hold AM or Community licences for the purpose of this discussion.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Now RP wants to offer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.radioplayer.co.uk\/stationideas\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">30 slots on their platform for &#8216;online-first&#8217; stations<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Looking at this as the Technical Manager of <a href=\"http:\/\/omgstaffs.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">One Media Group<\/a> (at Staffordshire University), my main concern isn&#8217;t the quality of our broadcasting on One Media Radio, but the cost and what appears to be a &#8216;bidding&#8217; process.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Looking at the guidelines for stations wishing to apply (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.radioplayer.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Radioplayer_station_ideas_-_guidance_for_applicants.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">which can be found here<\/a>), the following stood out to me:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Lot A \u2013 Non-profit community, student and internet radio stations<br>\nIn addition to the above, your application should cover:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>How you currently resource (or intend to resource) your station in terms of funding, streaming, and\u00a0technology provision.<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><em>Whether you have had any previous broadcast experience eg. run an RSL (restricted service licence).\u00a0This will help reinforce your case for Ofcom-level compliance.<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><em>Your proposed annual fee \u2013 Radioplayer is not a free product unfortunately, due to the extensive \u00a0investment which the BBC and others have put into the service. As a not-for-profit, all fees go straight back into the product. <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>The minimum guide bid for this category is \u00a3200 a year<\/strong><\/span>.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>As a student radio station, which relies upon the good nature of the Students&#8217; Union which funds us, we watch what we spend our money on very carefully. By putting a bid in at \u00a3200 that may hinder our chances as other non-profit, student and internet stations might be able to put more money into the project.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I am not for one moment saying that Radioplayer will just go with those with the most money, as they may not be able to say they&#8217;ve been part of an RSL or have a good history of online broadcasting. However it may be the deciding factor if two applicants are very close and one has a higher bid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As I say, these are just concerns and it&#8217;d be good to know what others think of my points above.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By the way, I will be pushing for One Media Radio to apply for one of these slots!<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"420\" height=\"178\" data-attachment-id=\"243\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/radioplayer-license-fees-jan-2011\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Radioplayer-License-Fees-Jan-2011.png\" data-orig-size=\"420,178\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Radioplayer License Fees Jan 2011\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;The Radioplayer License Fees in Jan 2011&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Radioplayer-License-Fees-Jan-2011.png\" src=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Radioplayer-License-Fees-Jan-2011.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-243\" srcset=\"https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Radioplayer-License-Fees-Jan-2011.png 420w, https:\/\/oliverneedham.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Radioplayer-License-Fees-Jan-2011-300x127.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The Radioplayer License Fees in Jan 2011<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><em>Update #1<\/em><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>A contact at a student station currently on Radioplayer has told me they paid \u00a390 (plus VAT) to join the platform. They went on to say &#8221;&nbsp;if it was double that we&#8217;d have to think twice.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In the Radioplayer Ratecard, which is sent to stations applying, it says:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Year 1 license fees include a setup charge, to take into account the upfront costs of establishing stations on Radioplayer and setting up the central systems.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>My contact also commented that they would expect the fees to go down for the next contract, however they have been told to expect it to go up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a name=\"21stnov\"><\/a><em>Update #2 &#8211; 21st November<\/em><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Earlier today, RadioToday.co.uk announced that Radioplayer has now had to &#8216;cancel&#8217; the Online-first slots.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>&nbsp;The not-for-profit organisation initially offered 30 slots&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/radiotoday.co.uk\/2012\/06\/radioplayer-opens-up-for-all-stations\/\">in June<\/a>&nbsp;and invited any radio station which doesn\u2019t meet the usual application criteria to submit their stream.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A spokesperson told RadioToday.co.uk: \u201cRadioplayer is a small, not-for-profit organisation and unfortunately, whilst there were some submissions of high quality, overall, we received neither the scale nor innovation of entries to merit the additional management resources needed to support the project.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Source:&nbsp;<a title=\"Permanent Link to Radioplayer cancels non-Ofcom offerings\" href=\"http:\/\/radiotoday.co.uk\/2012\/11\/radioplayer-cancels-non-ofcom-offerings\/\" rel=\"bookmark\">Radioplayer cancels non-Ofcom offerings<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>I predict that the costs were way too much for online first radio stations. And I&#8217;m not exactly sure what they were expecting in the way of applications.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Either way, this means that Radioplayer is very much for those that have an Ofcom licence and the money to put towards such an endeavour as RP.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update: Radioplayer has withdrew the slots. Read the update after the main post. I&#8217;ve worked on Radioplayer whilst at Cross Rhythms and even got recognised by the RP team for designing a player which is &#8220;a great example of what a small community radio station can do using very little resource&#8220;. 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